The Podcast

Speaking of Jung was created in the Spring of 2015. It was originally intended to be a series of interviews with Toronto-based, Zürich-trained Jungian analyst Daryl Sharp and the other analysts whose work he's published for Inner City Books.

During many years of study, I've noticed Jung's theories, ideas, and – most especially – terminology have been distorted and misinterpreted a great deal. Not to mention misunderstood. I often hear his terms bandied about with just a cursory knowledge of their meaning. Jung was the first to use the terms persona, introvert, extravert, archetype, collective unconscious, individuation, and synchronicity. I will be asking those who studied Jung in-depth to explain what they really mean.

My desire has always been to talk to the people who knew Jung best. I'm afraid that ship has sailed. Most, if not all, of the first generation of Jungian analysts are gone. But there are still those who have studied with Jung's pupils, and there are many of whom are called "classically trained" Jungian analysts. Classical Jungians are those who practice in the spirit of Jung, as closely as possible to the way he worked. They are who I will be interviewing for this podcast.

I want to discuss what Jung really said.

I am against making a cocktail of a bit of Jung and bits of other things, watering the whole of Jungian psychology down until it is again 19th-century philosophy, and no longer the shocking newness which I feel Jungian psychology is. It is really shockingly new. But one can also suck it back into the old system and say, ‘Oh, that...’ Jungian psychology has a history, it has not fallen from heaven, so to speak, and of course Jung had a lot of historical forerunners. But his way of looking at the unconscious, and even more, the practical way of living with it, in the way he taught it, is completely different from any other school. It’s something completely new, and it should not be watered down into past things.
— Marie-Louise von Franz, Ph.D., Jungian analyst, The Cat: A Tale of Feminine Redemption, p. 120

What Is a Jungian Analyst?

A Jungian analyst holds a Diploma in Analytical Psychology from an institution approved by the International Association for Analytical Psychology {the IAAP} in Zürich, Switzerland. The requirements to enter a training program here in the United States include a post-graduate degree {Masters, Ph.D., or M.D.} and 100 hours of personal analysis with a Jungian analyst. The curriculum consists of theory, individual and group supervision, clinical internship, client work, written papers and exams, and 300 additional hours of personal analysis. It typically takes 7-10 years of training after acquiring a post-graduate degree to become a Jungian analyst.

Theme Music

I'm very grateful to Rome-based recording artist Dhaze for allowing me to use his track, Introspection, as the theme song for this podcast. Dhaze, "a producer obsessed with nature and organic sounds," has been described as "young, skilled and supremely talented." This track, featured on the album Flowhertz by SlowPitch Recordings, is available on iTunes and on SoundCloud.

Trip to Zürich

In November 2015, I traveled to Zürich, Switzerland, to visit the places where Jung lived and worked. While there, I recorded interviews with Dr. Murray Stein, training analyst at the International School of Analytical Psychology Zürich {ISAP}, and Dr. Barbara Davies, who received her analytic training directly from Jung's closest pupil, Dr. Marie-Louise von Franz. I also met with the president of The Psychology Club Zürich, founded by Jung in 1916, and with Dr. Robert Hinshaw, training analyst/supervisor at the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich as well as publisher and founder of Daimon Verlag. Shaun Lau stepped in as guest host to interview me about the trip for Episode #11.

Guest Appearances

On April 4, 2016, I was interviewed by Cesar Torres for Pen & Pixel. You can watch that one-hour video interview, "Carl Jung, Creativity & the Unconscious," on YouTube.

In February, I was Brian Turnof's guest on The Mind's Eye to discuss Jung's occult experiences. That episode aired live on ZTalk Radio. The archived show is available to stream or download from Podcast Garden or to listen to on YouTube.

Then on January 31, 2016, I made a live guest appearance on Beyond the Strange to introduce the life and work of C.G. Jung to a whole new audience. You can stream or download the entire show on Spreaker or listen to it on YouTube. There is also a show notes page in the Blog section of this website.

And on November 16, 2015, I was the guest on No, Totally! to discuss the movie A Dangerous Method, the story of Jung, Freud and Sabina Spielrein, and wound up talking a lot about Jungian analysis. You can listen to the episode at There, you'll also find links on how to listen on iTunes and Stitcher.

Laura London
Chicago, January 2017